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Railside tree removals spark angry reaction

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Palmers Green residents who are angry with the wholesale removal of trees from a trackside cutting have begun sending messages of protest to a Network Rail manager.

railway line fox lane bridge afterComplaints relate to a section of track adjacent to the Fox Lane bridge.  On the western side of the cutting absolutely all trees and bushes have been removed along the section of track next to the new "Palmadium" housing development.  Quite apart from the visual impact, there will be an obvious severe affect on wildlife and more train noise for Palmadium residents.  It will also now be much easier for people to trespass on the railway line.  There are also concerns about a risk of landslips onto the railway - as happened only recently in Warwickshire when trees were removed, leading to the closure of part of the Marylebone-Birmingham line until further notice.

Example of a message sent to Network Rail executive Richard Owens (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.)

Hello Richard,

I’m sure you’ve received a few emails like this today and that there’ll be more to follow in the next few days, as a resident has provided before and after pictures for those of us trying to get to the bottom of the current clearance.

The flattened area around the Fox Lane bridge area highlights exactly the kind of wholesale destruction I was worried about when I contacted you earlier this month.

I’m sure there’s nothing you’ll say in response except that you were actioning the recommendations of an independent survey; though I’m still finding it hard to shake the conviction that Network Rail’s brief for the survey was something along the lines of ‘please highlight any and all possible threats, no matter how small, that might conceivably affect the lines for many years to come’.

Can all of these trees have posed a threat to the line? Really?

I realise also that Network Rail are in the privileged position of not being answerable to anyone - that much has been made abundantly clear. But please bear in mind that though you own the land around the tracks, the wildlife and trees there are part of our environment, and a little consideration for the feelings of residents when you’re planning this sort of excessive clearance might be worth considering. Would you tolerate this in your neighbourhood?

After Network Rail gave notice of the tree clearance project, attempts by Enfield Southgate MP David Burrows and others to forestall any particularly drastic interventions were unsuccessful - a reflection of Network Rail's privileged legal status with regard to the way it manages its land.

railway line fox lane bridge overheadThe arboriculturalists' report provided to Network Rail referred to two groups of trees at the point in question, using the reference TG3026 and TG3027.

TG3026 referred to two horse chestnuts "displaying typical symptoms of horse chestnut bleeding canker infection, damage to lower stems becoming critical to continuation of life processes, embrittlement of scaffold limbs likely and failures certain to affect third party development at west".

TG3027 referred to a group of more than 35 sycamore and ash trees, about which the surveyors noted "Group features poor included, compressed stem unions, upon regrown stumps, with excessive ivy, poor form and reliance upon companion shelter.

The recommended action for both groups was "Fell" and this has clearly been followed, regardless of the local consequences.

The tree clearance work is due to continue for about three weeks.  Other sections are less easily viewed from the road, so we do not know exactly what has happened elsewhere.   Photographs taken from the footbridge further down the line from Fox Lane reveal some removal of trees, but they have not left the banks looking quite to bare and desolate.

railway line tree clearanceViews from the footbridge further north

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Help turn Palmers Green yellow!

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marie curie daffodil collectorsDate: 7th/8th and 14th March

Location: Palmers Green & Southgate (various locations)

Details: Local residents are needed to help turn Palmers Green yellow for Marie Curie Cancer Care's Great Daffodil Appeal!

Collections are taking place in the area on weekends in March and all funds raised will go to the Marie Curie Hospice in Hampstead and to fund local Marie Curie nurses.

Marie Curie provides high quality end of life care for north Londoners with cancer and other terminal illnesses, in their own homes or in the hospice. Just two hours of your time will make a huge difference to someone when they really need it!

Search for collections and sign up here:  Alternatively, please contact the Community Fundraiser:

Grace Allingham
Community Fundraiser
Marie Curie Hospice Hampstead
11 Lyndhurst Gardens

T: 0207 853 3411
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The KinoVan visits Enfield Town

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On Thursday 12th March, from 1pm to 4pm, Enfield Town Market will play host to an unusual visitor - a KinoVan (or should that be "the KinoVan"?)

The KinoVan - a "cinema on wheels" - will be showing cine clips illustrating how the borough has changed over the past hundred years.  And various experts, such as film archivist Louise Pankhurst, will be there to tell people about the borough's film history.

The KinoVan belongs to Film London - London's Film Archives and its visit is part of a project called London:  A Bigger Picture.

If you have some interesting historic footage of your own, the Screen Archives would like to see it:  "A Bigger Picture is not just about celebrating the film archives held across the capital, it is about ensuring they stay packed full of rich material. And for that we need you!

"Do you have films showing life in Enfield? Whether it's birthday parties, days out or just sitting around watching telly, we want you to bring along any films that you would like to donate to your local archive. You won't just help to enrich the collection, you'll be preserving your memories for future audiences."

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History of Enfield reaches the Swinging Sixties

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The Enfield Society has just published the fourth volume in its series A History of Enfield

"A Time of Change", covers the period 1939 -1969. It includes chapters on life in Enfield, Edmonton and Southgate during the war, the austerity of the late Forties, the difficult Fifties and the swinging Sixties.

Written by Monica Smith, this hardback book with over 200 illustrations costs £18.50. It is available from Waterstones in Enfield town, online at and at Enfield Society meetings at Jubilee Hall. There will also be an opportunity to purchase copies at a special opening of Jubilee Hall, 2 Parsonage Lane, EN2 0AZ on Saturday 14th March between 10am and 1pm, when copies can be signed by the author.

Volumes 2 and 3 of "History of Enfield", written by David Pam, are also still available, but volume 1 is now out of print.

A history of Enfield. Vol. 4 – 1939 to 1969: A time of change / by Monica Smith. – Enfield : The Enfield Society, 2015. –  24cm. – ISBN 978 0 907318 23 1 £18.50

This was, possibly, the time of greatest social change since the Industrial Revolution. World War II did not result in the massive slaughter of troops of the Great War but bombs from enemy aircraft, and later the V1 and V2 rockets, brought the war to the Home Front with the destruction of homes and industry and loss of life. Edmonton was the worst affected part of our area. All citizens were united by a determination to win the war and put up with many changes to their lives such as food rationing, the evacuation of children and overcrowded housing. Conscription of both men and women, too, proved to be a social leveller. The unemploment and poverty of the 1930s was replaced by increased demand for workers, especially in the arms factories of the Lea Valley where women took over many jobs. This encouraged many women to continue to work after the war.

Victory over Germany and Japan in 1945 was joyfully celebrated but the following few years were tough ones with continuing housing, food and fuel shortages. However, the coming of the Welfare State brought benefits to many and the establishment of the National Health Service offered free medical care to all. Secondary education was extended to all children and some working-class ones had the opportunity to study at universities and then to join the professional classes.

Major changes were the reorganisation of local government with the amalgamation of the boroughs of Edmonton, Enfield and Southgate into the London Borough of Enfield in 1965 and the coming of comprehensive education. By 1969 most people had a standard of living far higher than that of the 1930s. Houses were modernised and equipped wiht domestic appliances, medical care and education were free to all and wages sufficient to allow spending on holidays, leisure, good food and clothing. However local industry was already beginning to suffer from competition from Asia and the out look for the coming decade was not so rosy.– Dust jacket

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"Here" - a truly local film festival now booking

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This week the ever ambitious Talkies Community Cinema announces its latest venture.  HERE proudly proclaims itself to be a "suburban film festival":

HERE FILM FESTIVAL is about the diversity of interests, people and places in the suburbs of London. HERE is not in the West End, Southbank or Shoreditch. HERE in the suburbs we aren't the swanky super-rich, the celebrity glitterati or bearded hipsters. HERE is where the cinema creatives of London produce their best output. HERE is where life is a rich diversity of race, religion and culture. HERE is where most of London lives.

The festival programme includes feature films that are mainly small independent British productions that have some connection with the area. HERE we draw on local talent and themes and we are also very proud to premiere four new short films, commissioned for the festival .

HERE features eight evenings of film, starting with Pride on 18th March and culminating on 15th May with 1000 Londoners - which is just that, a digital glimpse at the lives of a thousand very varied inhabitants of our city.

HERE also sees Talkies again expanding its range of venues.  While staying faithful to the Fox, Baskervilles and the Dugdale, three new venues are featured - bowls clubs in Bounds Green and Bush Hill Park, and Winchmore Hill's Waterhouse Hall.

As always, there are little extras, such as introductions and Q&A sessions with actors, directors and people involved in the events that are described.  Not bad for £5 a ticket!

For details of the films and to book online, visit the Talkies website.

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Acting workshops for adults and young people

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Starting in April, Chickenshed will be running acting workshops for adults on Thursday evenings and for children on Saturday mornings.

Adult Theatre Performance Workshop

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  • Venue: Chickenshed Theatre
  • Dates: Thursday 23 April – Thursday 14 May and Thursday 11 June – Thursday 2 July
  • Times: 7pm - 9pm
  • Cost: £60 for series of 8 workshops
  • Age: 21+
  • Duration: 2hrs

Chickenshed's Performance Workshop is a series in which you will develop your performing skills and creative ideas using Chickenshed's methods and practices.

During the eight week workshop you will explore a number of performance disciplines and will gain skills, confidence and understanding about how to put creative ideas into practice and then develop them.

Chickenshed's Performance Workshop is open to anyone who would like to take part regardless of previous experience. All you need to participate is an interest in this sort of creative performance work and plenty of enthusiasm!

Saturday Shed - performance workshops for young people

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  • Venue: Chickenshed Theatre
  • Dates: Saturday 25 Apr – Saturday 30 May (excluding Sat 23 May) and Saturday 20 June – Saturday 4 July
  • Ages and Time: 10am & 11.15am
  • Price: £6 per child per session or 25% discount if all eight sessions are bought in advance.
  • Age: 5 – 12 years.
  • Running time: 1hr

A great opportunity for young people to develop their performance skills using our proven teaching methods and unique performance style.

Led by our highly experienced and energetic staff, each fun session will involve movement, drama, singing and story-making. Every workshop is different and designed so that a child of any ability can come to all sessions, or drop in to one session from time to time.

Contacting Chickenshed

  • Venue: Chickenshed Theatre
  • Address: 290 Chase Side, Southgate, London, N14 4PE
  • Box Office: 020 8292 9222
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Venue:             Chickenshed Theatre

Address:          290 Chase Side, Southgate, London, N14 4PE

Box Office:     020 8292 9222

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Public transport group disappointed with slow progress on proposed bus routes changes

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The Enfield Transport Users Group (ETUG) has expressed its disappointment about the delay on the part of Transport for London (TfL) in responding to an integrated package of bus route changes drawn up by ETUG on behalf of Enfield Council.

Enfield Council submitted the proposals set out in the Enfield Bus Review at the end of 2013.  The Review recommended changes to 29 bus routes running wholly or largely within the borough, aimed at achieving a number of objectives without increasing the total number of buses running on the routes (see this earlier report for details of how the changes would affect Palmers Green).  However, when TfL's response to the proposals was made public for the first time, at a special meeting of ETUG on 22nd January, it appeared that their route planning team had not carried out any detailed examination of the viability of the suggested route changes.

Tony Wallis, one of the ETUG team that had carried out the Review, was disappointed because

  • TfL had taken over a year to come back with a response to around 25% of the Review's proposals
  • they had not tried to follow a whole-area evaluation process, which was not helpful as the Review had proposed many related changes
  • TfL's responses relating to particular routes did not relate to the actual changes suggested by the Review
  • TfL had given no indication of when they would respond to the remainder of the proposals.

ETUG will meet next on 5th March, when it will revert to its normal agenda covering all aspects of public transport within the Borough.  Current issues include the sharp rise in fares on the Liverpool Street-Seven Sisters-Enfield Town rail line and the future of ETUG itself, which will be losing the administrative support that Enfield Council has been providing, such as secretarial support and a meeting venue (another consequence of budget cuts).

Previous ETUG meeting minutes

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Mini-Holland questions answered - on streaming radio

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On Wednesday the community website Love Your Doorstep (LYDS) invited Councillor Chris Bond to record an interview about Cycle Enfield/Mini Holland for later transmission on the locally based internet radio station Radio JJ.

Emma Rigby, the brains behind LYDS, used questions provided by her readers.

The recording will be streamed by Radio JJ this Sunday (22nd February) at 8pm.  To listen to it, visit

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Posted: 23 Feb 2015 23:59 by PGC Webmaster #991
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Love Your Doorstep have posted an audio clip of the interview with Councillor Bond on Facebook.

More Quieter Neighbourhood consultations launched

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Enfield Council has begun the first phase of consultation for a further Quieter Neighbourhood in the vicinity of Palmers Green:  Fernleigh Road QN will comprise Hoppers Road and all roads to the east as far as, but not including, Green Lanes, plus Winchmore Hill Green and the area to its east as far as Green Lanes, including Compton Road and Station Road.

Residents will be sent a questionnaire but can also respond online - in fact, the Council are seeking responses from all members of households, including children aged five and above.

When launching earlier Quiet Neighbourhood consultations (for Fox Lane, Connaught Gardens and Wolves Lanes) the Council stated that it was beginning the process with a blank page and is inviting residents to fill it in - to tell them what, if any, problems they have with traffic in their areas and to suggest ways of resolving them.  The Council will be "taking a back seat" and has no preconceived ideas.

fernleigh road quieter neighbourhood 2The Fox Lane scheme has now reached the stage where selected volunteers from the streets affected were invited to participate in a Design Workshop (read our report on the Fox Lane workshop)..

Two further Quieter Neighbourhoods consultations have also been launched recently.  The Main Avenue QN would encompass the area to the south of Southbury Road, including Bush Hill Park.  The Haselbury Road QN would cover an area of a more or less square shape with Edmonton Green at the north eastern corner and the Cambridge Roundabout at the south eastern corner.

Information on the Enfield Council website

Earler reporting on Quieter Neighbourhoods

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Posted: 26 Feb 2015 09:51 by carmen dutt #996
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Why is it only the affluent areas are being supported for 'Quieter Neighbourhood.. I live at the top of Hedge Lane near Green Lanes and are bombarded with speeding vehicles coming down from affluent areas e.g. Bourne Hil etc, when I first moved in here several years ago it was so peaceful but now it's non stop traffic and the speed they come down from Bourne Hill is so dangerous, I've asked for speed signs and no reply from the Council, yet it's on Green Lanes and Bourne is so dangerous to cross here and also park, the council refuse to lower the pavement for some of us who lives from No 1 to about No 18...Enfield Council must do something about these areas as well, after all we all pay our Council Taxes just like those living in those affluent areas. thanks for reading.
Posted: 26 Feb 2015 15:44 by Karl Brown #998
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Enfield Council are working to a programme of thirty plus Quieter Neighbourhoods over several years which will span the complete Borough and in doing so cover all aspects of the Boroughs relative affluence, be it based on where people live, or drive to / from / through. Several of the early pilots are here in the south west of the Borough; I assume because of its known traffic issues.

Hedge Lane is a boundary of the current Connaught Gardens Quieter Neighbourhood consultation. Details are on the Council web site where I suspect you can contribute.

The speeding problems you highlight are relatively common and I believe very well-known regarding Hedge Lane from Councillors to our MP. What to do? Perhaps at the top of the tree is the Mayors comment, “It is time we collectively recognised that we need to move beyond our dependence on the internal combustion engine.” That quote, from “Leading to a Greener London”, led to his Transport Strategy, to A Vision for Cycling and ultimately Mini Holland / Cycle Enfield / Quieter Neighbourhoods. So responding to the current consultation is probably in a sensible direction.

Otherwise, some Boroughs have gone with 20mph limits. The campaign “20’s Plenty” currently has a lot of traction in Winchmore Hill where some roads suffer speed problems. You could join that or start a more local based campaign focused on your more immediate area.

And these things are often not one dimensional,: at a guess I would suspect based on location you will fall into the one quarter of Londoners exposed to road traffic noise above WHO guidelines – a line which is referred to as leading to “serious community annoyance”. There are many such annoyed people and to be fair, Enfield Council are now doing a great deal to finally try and get to grips with much of the issue, winning a large investment pot from The Mayor to do exactly that.
Posted: 26 Feb 2015 19:17 by Basil Clarke #1000
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I'm sure that Quieter Neighbourhoods aren't being designed in terms of affluence. Two of the latest are Haselbury Road and Main Avenue. Haselbury (north of Silver Street and south of Edmonton Church Street) is hardly an affluent area, and while the western part of the Main Avenue zone (Bush Hill Park) is very well off, that's certainly not the case with the eastern part.

Hedge Lane is wedged between two quieter neighbourhoods. But unfortunately, such an important main road as Hedge Lane could never be part of a Quieter Neighbourhood - I think that it probably carries more traffic than Green Lanes. That said, the authorities - and in this case probably the GLA rather than Enfield - owe it to the hundreds of people living along your road to make their life more tolerable. They could start by enforcing the speed limit and preferably by lowering it to 20mph.

As Karl points out, the longer term solution is to reduce the number of cars on the road by encouraging other methods of transport. Cycle Enfield will hopefully help, though it won't do much for Hedge Lane as things stand.

Fox Lane Quieter Neighbourhood Design Workshop

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Work on the Fox Lane Quieter Neighbourhood has now moved on to the stage where selected residents are invited to participate in design workshops.  Colin Younger attended a workshop on 10th February.

Following the presentation hosted by the Fox Lane and District Residents' Association, Enfield Traffic and Transport officers held a design workshop on 10th February at St Johns Church Hall. Overall this was a well-managed meeting and the discussions were good tempered.

map of fox lane and connaught gardens quieter neighbourhoodsAbout fifty residents from the area and Councillors Dinah Barry, Ertan Hurer, Daniel Anderson and Robert Hayward took part. The bulk of the time was spent working in four groups discussing our concerns and how they might be dealt with, followed by a group by group report back at the end. Ideas were marked up on large plans of the area and the ubiquitous post it notes which were kept by the LBE officers for later study.

What follows is my take on the session – others may have different views and can post them as comments on this articlee.

I would say that there was widespread agreement that the overriding problem was with through traffic. What we wanted was to reduce the volume of such traffic and to control (calm) residual through traffic and residents' traffic.

I don't think that idea of road closures met with widespread support, though in one or two roads (eg Devonshire Road) this did seem appropriate, and there were individuals who wanted wider application. There was support for a few specific places having residents-only access at school run times. More broadly, the idea of the Fox Lane area "cell" being identified as a "Residential Zone" was supported. This could be by a mixture of entry signs, road tables at entry points or even, if the technology allowed, some sort of penalty system. I think that there were doubts about one-way systems – they could encourage speeding safe in the knowledge that there would be no on-coming traffic.

There were mixed views of the 20mph zone idea. How would it be enforced (cost and technology issues)?  Wouldn't it be better to see how the other changes affected speeds and then concentrate on formal speed limits selectively where there had been no improvement? An interesting legal distinction (if I've understood this) is that if it can be demonstrated that average speeds are 24mph or less, then a 20mph zone can be introduced by signage alone, but if average speeds are over this then physical measures to bring speeds down are required before a 20mph zone can be established.

From my perspective the most interesting ideas focussed on Fox Lane, commonly seen as an inappropriate through road in the middle of a residential area, difficult and dangerous to cross for pedestrians, too busy both along and across it. Changes to the road layout could also inhibit rat running traffic between Bourne Hill and Aldermans Hill. Suggested changes could include mini-roundabouts and changes to traffic priorities at junctions and cross roads. The idea would be to treat traffic on Fox Lane as having no more priority than that coming from the side roads. For example, cars approaching a junction such as with Lakeside Road would meet either a (very) mini-roundabout or halt signs and white lines with priority being set for traffic turning out of Lakeside Road. In effect this would break down Fox Lane in to a series of road sections. This isn't a developed idea, obviously, but it's an example of an idea which can be taken away by Transport and Traffic staff to test out.

Issues were raised about the W9 bus route, both about the impact of any proposed changes along Fox Lane, and also about the problem some residents have with buses running north and south along Cranley Gardens. On this latter would it be better (overall) if the north and south legs used different roads, or could it continue along Fox Lane to Green Lanes?  I think that the feeling overall was that this exchanged one set of problems for another.

I didn't pick up much support for "vertical" interventions (cushions, pillows, and tables). However a problem on long straight roads where visibility is good, such as along Lakeside Road and Derwent Road, is that drivers are tempted to speed up after turning in from Fox Lane or Aldermans Hill.

The preference seemed to be less for physically intrusive measures, than through what amount to optical illusions and other tricks to induce a sense of insecurity and uncertainty, leading drivers to slow down. This could be by varying road surfaces (but definitely not installing rumble strips which are too noisy and create troubling vibrations) and/or painting sections of road – again this is just an idea to be taken away and examined. However, if these ideas don't work out I suspect that more physical measures may be needed (pillows not the double cushion arrangements though).

In some places road intersections were seen as particular problems for pedestrians. Examples are the very wide intersection of the Bourne, Greenway and the Ridgway, and the Bourne/Fox Lane junction. Reducing the road width and changing the radius of the curve was suggested as a way to deal with this

On the edge of the zone, a similar problem arises where Lodge Drive meets Green Lanes. Shared space was also suggested along Green Lanes and perhaps in residential areas too. Some way of reducing speed on Aldermans Hill was also discussed.

I understand that LBE officers have taken back our ideas and questions with a view to re-consulting in about four weeks time.

As I said at the start, these are my recollections, so apologies if I have omitted issues or misinterpreted views expressed.

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Posted: 17 Feb 2015 21:35 by David Hughes #957
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A good summary I'd say Colin; we all hear and remember different things at this sort of event, a circumstance even more likely when different discussions are going on at four tables. The one thing I'd highlight which isn't in your report is that all four tables went for the option of 20mph speed limits, despite the fact that the complexity of the officers explanations didn't help with decision-making.
Posted: 19 Feb 2015 14:48 by Tony Elliott #964
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Yes, a good summary Colin. Re the suggestions to break Fox Lane down to a series of sections, there is an interesting precedent in Hartington Road, Chiswick, which I drove along (in both directions) yesterday. There, a straightish road on the edge of a residential area has mini-roundabouts at every T-junction, and also a number of chicanes, where traffic in one directions is given priority over traffic in the other; prioriites are reversed at the next chicane. It seems to work well.
Posted: 19 Feb 2015 17:15 by David March #965
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I know Hartington Road in Chiswick and the changed priorities do seem to work.

I generally don't like mini-roundabouts because from my experience they make it more difficult for pedestrians crossing at at road junction.
Posted: 20 Feb 2015 10:40 by David March #966
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A novel way of traffic calming


Petition launched to save the Green Dragon

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Following the closure and boarding up of the Green Dragon in Winchmore Hill, a petition has been launched calling on Enfield Council to not allow the building to be converted into flats, retail or any other alternative use.

green dragonThe Green Dragon in its most recent guise: English pub downstairs, Thai restaurant upstairsThe online petition, initiated by the Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA), says that saving the building as a public house is important because

There has been a Green Dragon pub on or near this site since 1726 and we feel very strongly that this traditional part of Winchmore Hill life should be maintained. When properly managed the pub was a vibrant centre of the community filled with laughter and conversation and we believe that with proper ownership and management it can be again. The building is an important historical landmark which identifies Winchmore Hill to those passing through, and as such prevents the area from being just another faceless section of Green Lanes. The pub has survived wars and countless other times of great difficulty and poverty over nearly 300 years, yet we are in danger of allowing it to be destroyed now just because of a few years of poor turnover and somebody's desire to make a quick profit. Please help us to save The Green Dragon and ensure its future at the heart of our community where Winchmore Hill residents can gather together to laugh, talk, eat, drink and celebrate as so many generations have before.

In addition to the petition, it is hoped to register the Green Dragon as an Asset of Community Value.  However, even if successful, this might only help temporarily delay any change of use or demolition, as current planning legislation does not provide any particular protection to pubs.  CAMRA has in fact been running a campaign to make it more difficult to convert or demolish pubs, which seems to have met with some support within the government and Parliament.

Currently Southgate District Civic Trust is applying to have the Fox in Palmers Green registered as a community asset.  Like the Green Dragon, this is a building that, quite apart from its function, because of its size, apperance and position is a notable part of the local townscape.  However, unlike the Green Dragon, the Fox is still open and rumours that it was being sold appear to have been unfounded.

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Posted: 20 Feb 2015 23:21 by PGC Webmaster #968
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On their their Facebook page the Save the Green Dragon campaign is reporting that both the freehold and the leasehold now belong to a company which specialises in buying failing businesses. It has reportedly not yet decided what to do with the building, but the fact that it is not a pub company is obviously worrying.

The campaign organisers are planning the following actions:
  • Try to arrange a meeting with this company to discuss their plans and make our case.
  • Speak to local newspapers,
  • Investigate whether there are pub companies which might be interested in buying the pub.
  • Continue to try to raise the profile of our campaign and build our public support which may be very valuable in the future.

The campaign asks supporters to encourage friends to sign the petition and share the campaign.

As well as information about the campaign the Facebook page has historical photographs and information about the Green Dragon

Giving communities the opportunity to actively influence the future of their town centres

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A national charity has launched a manifesto calling on future governments to prioritise improvements to the public realm and enable local communities to play an active part in planning such improvements.

Civic Voice has as its aims making places more attractive, enjoyable and distinctive and promoting civic pride.  Its manifesto, Localism for Real, was launched this week at a Parliamentary meeting. 

Southgate District Civic Trust, who are affiliated to Civic Voice and contributed to its drafting, were disappointed that Enfield Southgate David Burrowes was unable to attend because of other commitments, but took an earlier opportunity to present him with a summary of the manifesto.

Another recently issued Civic Trust publication, Collaborative Planning for All, has been produced as part of a campaign to to bring collaborative planning processes into mainstream planning so that through shared working from an early stage, communities can help shape and support, growth and development fit for their community.

In the runup to the General Election Civic Voice will be calling on all parties to adopt the principles set out in Collaborative Planning for All.  The charity wants to see a new approach in which local authorities are required to demonstrate that local planning decisions can be made only after it has been demonstrated that there has been active participation in the process by members of the local community.


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Police warning about telephone scams

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The following warnings about currently common types of scam are included in this month's Palmers Green Safer Neighbourhood News.

its a scam

The most common scam is the one shown above in the picture.

Protecting your card details is vital.

Card scams involve the use of stolenor counterfeit cards to make direct purchases or cash withdrawals or the use of stolen card details to buy items over the phone or via the internet.

What you should know


Your bank and the police will never ring you and tell you that they are coming to your home to collect your card, so never hand it over to anyone who comes to collect it. Should you receive a call like this put the phone down.  THIS IS A SCAM.

Depending on who you bank with, the security questions asked by the bank may vary (e.g. the last 4 digits of your account number of digits or your password) but your bank will NEVER ask you to authorize anything by entering your PIN into the telephone.

ATM - Cash Machines:

  • NEVER share your PIN with anyone - the only time you should use your PIN is at a cash machine or when you use a chip and PIN machine in a shop.
  • If there is anything unusual about the cash machine or there are signs of tampering, do not use it and report it to the bank as soon as possible.
  • Do not get distracted. Be particularly cautious if ‘well-meaning’ strangers try to distract you or offer to help you and most importantly, discreetly put your money and card away before leaving the cash machine.
  • Cover you PIN. Stand close to the machine and always use your free hand to cover the keypad as you enter your PIN. This will prevent any prying eyes or hidden cameras seeing it.

A recent serious case in Enfield

Recently an elderly victim was convinced by a very professional sounding phone fraudster that the bank manager at an Enfield bank was being investigated as he was putting fake bank notes through the bank. The victim was asked to withdraw a large amount of money from the bank so that the investigators could check the money was real.

The fraudster rang her before she went in and told her to keep the line open on her mobile phone so he could hear the exchange between the victim and the bank staff. The victim received the money and handed it over to the person sent to meet her around the corner.

A couple of days later she was asked to repeat the same thing but not at the same branch as they suspected that it was also happening at another branch. The victim went through the same routine again for another large amount of money and again handed it over.

Again a couple of days later the victim was asked to repeat the same thing again at a third branch but the bank staff this time persuaded the victim that she was being scammed. By this time a large amount of money had been handed over.

The "Microsoft" scam

Another common scam is the where you receive a phone call from someone claiming to be from Microsoft saying they have detected a problem with your computer saying it’s causing problems for the network and they can fix it. They ask to be connected to your computer and can then had viruses or access your files. They also ask for payment for the fix they have so called installed.


Remember these 10 golden rules to help you beat the scammers.

  1. There are no guaranteed get-rich-quick schemes.
  2. Do not agree to offers or deals straight away. If you think you have spotted a great opportunity, insist on time to obtain independent/legal advice before making a decision.
  3. Do not hand over money or sign anything until you have checked the credentials of the company that you are dealing with.
  4. Never send money or give bank or personal details to anyone you do not know or trust. This includes sending money abroad and using methods of payment that you are not comfortable with.
  5. Log directly on to a website that you are interested in rather than clicking on links provided in an email.
  6. Do not rely on glowing testimonials: find solid independent evidence of a company’s success.
  7. Always get independent/legal advice if an offer involves money time or commitment.
  8. If you spot a scam of have been scammed, report it and get help. Contact ActionFraud on 0300 123 2040, online at or the Police in your area.
  9. Always remember: scammers are cunning and clever. They know how to manipulate you to produce the response they want.
  10. Be suspicious. If you are unsure about anything, seek independent/legal advice.

For more advice you can download the Little Book of Big Scams.

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Proposed changes to community involvement in planning

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Enfield Council is consulting residents, as well as "anybody with an interest in Enfield", about proposed changes to the Statement of Community Involvement.  This document, which was originally issued in 2006, "seeks to ensure the active, meaningful and continued involvement of local communities and stakeholders in planning".  It sets out how, when and who will be consulted throughout the preparation of Local Plan and other statutory planning documents prepared by the Council, and in dealing with planning applications and appeals.  Its scope has been widened to include details of community involvement in neighbourhood planning and in the preparation of the Community Infrastructure Levy (CIL).

Revisions to the Statement are necessary because of a number of changes to national planning legislation.

The deadline for comments is 27th March 2015.


Information on the Council website
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The Council adopted its Statement of Community Involvement (SCI) in 2006. This provided the Council’s approach to community involvement in the preparation of the Local Plan as well as consultation on planning applications and appeals.

Since then a number of changes to both planning legislation/policy including the introduction of the Localism Act 2011, and technological advances including increased use and availability of electronic communications such as email and the web, have changed the way public consultation is carried out. This meant that this document required an update.

Consultation - Revised Statement of Community Involvement (SCI) in Planning (2015)

The revised SCI is published for a six week consultation period from 13th February to 27th March 2015. The revised SCI seeks to ensure the active, meaningful and continued involvement of local communities and stakeholders in planning. It sets out a consultation strategy for the Councils planning functions including:

  • How, when and who will be consulted throughout the preparation stages of Local Plan document preparation;
  • Current statutory procedures in dealing with planning applications and appeals which include provisions for consultation on planning applications, and specifies the bodies to be consulted, depending on the type of planning application together with guidance on requirements for statutory notices to be served on adjacent
  • premises regarding prior approvals for householder extensions;
  • Guidance on Neighbourhood Planning which will provide the opportunity for community groups (as designated neighbourhood forums) to prepare their own neighbourhood plans;
  • An overview of the provisions in relation to the Community Infrastructure Levy (CIL), the procedures and the bodies that will be consulted during its preparation;
  • The Council’s approach to the Duty to Co-operate; and
  • Update on Enfield’s communities to take account of 2011 Census data.

The revised SCI is available for review by following the link above or as hard copies at the Civic Centre, Silver Street, Enfield, EN1 3XA and all local libraries. Anyone with an interest in Enfield may respond.

What happens next?

Comments received will be reviewed as part of finalising the SCI for adoption. It is anticipated that the revised SCI will be formally adopted in summer 2015.

If you would like to be kept up to date with Enfield’s Local Plan preparation and future consultations, you can do so by registering your contact details on the Local Plan database by This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or contact the Local Plan Team directly on 020 8379 3866 for further details.

Planning Charter

The Council also has a Planning Charter that can be viewed here. It is aimed at customers accessing the Council's Development Management Service.

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Road layout options displayed at Cycle Enfield exhibition

Written by Colin Younger on . Posted in Cycle Enfield (Mini-Holland)

Bob Griffiths has kindly emailed copies of the key illustrations giving possible road layouts for Green Lanes. One is for stretches with little or no retail activity and one which might apply to Palmers Green where there are shops etc on both sides of the road.

Each starts with an "as now" cross section, which is followed by possible layouts using the same overall shop frontage to shop frontage distance across the road so they are intended to be easily comparable.

Apologies for the very poor image quality.  We have been promised better versions and will substitute these once they arrive.

Options for non-shopping sections

non shopping road layouts

Options for retail sections

shopping road layouts

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Posted: 12 Feb 2015 17:04 by Colin Younger #918
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I'm sorry that the images of the retail street are low definition, and fall apart when enlarged. I'v been promised better quality ones which I will post when I get them.
Posted: 12 Feb 2015 19:09 by Colin Younger #921
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I know that LBE has been keen not to suggest that they have made up their minds about a particular solution, but I think that if they had shared these potential layouts then some of the heat might have been taken out of the local debate. I don't know how open LBE is to otrher possible layouts (or indeed whether any are possible).

In their nature they don't indicate how, along the length of the shopping area, bus stops might be distributed or what provision there might be for pedestrians crossing these lay outs. My immediate feeling is that different cross sections will probably have different options/possibilities. If I'm right that should be in the next step for consultation.

Also, this doesn't tell me how the Triangle will be treated. It was good to see that the display at the Fox included reference to the responses to the 2012 Palmers Green public realm consultation (more about which can be found elsewhere on PGC), which supported the retention and improvement of the Triangle.
Posted: 12 Feb 2015 19:19 by Tom Mellor #916
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It seems like they added all the choices to inflate number the options, but really most of them are nonsense. Any cycle track that would require buses crossing it to stop or drivers to cross to park is a big no no. I'm amazed they are even suggested. The other possibility of a cycle track on the centre of the road might work but it seems people aren't really comfortable in that sort of position and it is hard to imagine how junctions could work. It would also make it harder to enter the cycle track and pedestrain crossings could be more complicated.

The armadillos seemed sturdier than the ones in Royal College Street, but again they aren't car proof. We will have to rely on sensible parking or enforcement; I'm not holding my breath. It really is the cheap option.

The other problem with armadillos is the perceived risk. If people don't feel safe cycling ( especially groups other than the 20-40 range) then we are really hampering the opportunity to increase cycling in Enfield.

A disturbing posibility is that they can be removed very easily if the scheme fails. What 'fails' means is obviously open to interpretation, but it must be noted that a lower quality scheme ( which is what armadillos are) will invariably result in a lower usage.

Of course when the scheme gets finally built it is by no means a complete network, so many more roads will need to have infrastructure if we are to capitalise on the the success of the initial routes.

Cycle Enfield video released

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cycle enfield video

Ahead of tomorrow's Cycle Enfield ("Mini-Holland") exhibition and consultation at the Fox (3pm to 8pm), Enfield Council have released a short video explaining the thinking behind the scheme.

The video also outlines further consultation stages.

To go to the YouTube pages, click on the picture above, or view the embedded video below.

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Posted: 14 Feb 2015 12:01 by David March #930
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I wish Enfield could spell 'exercise' correctly in the video . . . . they must correct it!! I am sure loads of people have pointed this out to them. I see it has been removed from YouTube

Broomfield Friends invite you to hear about their latest projects

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After a very successful Sunday entertaining children with Floating Lanterns on the Model Boating Pond, the Friends of Broomfield Park are preparing to brief the public about the many projects that they are involved in.

floating lantern 2015A floating lantern on Broomfield Model Boating Pond - the new improved 2015 design impressed with its increased top speed!At their quarterly Open Meeting at the Ruth Winston Centre tonight (Monday) the Friends will report on developments in Broomfield Conservatory and the Community Orchard and the team behind the Palmers Greenery community cafe will brief us on their highly successful first six months of operation.  There will also be news about the project to restore Broomfield House and a much smaller, but equally important, plan to repair damage to the Remembrance Garden.

Of particular interest will be the two latest projects that the Friends have announced:  a Community Growing Space and a Wildlife Pond.

The meeting starts at 7.30pm and everyone is welcome.

For more information about the Friends visit

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"Enfield Town Time Machine No. 1"

Written by Basil Clarke on . Posted in Local History

Artist and Enfield resident John Salmon (see his YouTube channel here) has put together a fascinating and ingenious slide show of early photographs of Enfield Town, accompanied by sound track of contemporary background noises.

John adds the following written comments:

Experience what life may have been like in Enfield Town once photography was able to record interesting details and events which make our town what it is today.

I’ve been collecting local photographs from the internet for quite some time and was at odds as to what to do with them. I then thought it would be interesting to use them in a way which would both entertain and educate. Therefore I’m hoping this video will inspire other Enfield residents to look deeper into the fascinating history of our borough. Luckily a walk through the backstreets of Enfield Town will show you a lot of our history is still visible to this day.

We are extremely lucky to have been born at a time when the internet has made the exploration of our history so easy now. We have internet sites which can help us find out so much more and people willing to give their time to help purely for the love of the subject and our town.

We have the Enfield Society

We have the Enfield Local Studies Library and Archive

There are also Facebook Groups where locals post images and discuss local history and memories.

“Enfield’s past in photos“.

“Enfield & surrounding areas Photos & Chat”.

“Edmontons Past”

I’ve used photos from all these sites without knowing who they may belong to and probably without permission but as you will see this is purely a non profit exercise which I’m hoping will inspire more to become interested in Enfield. I hope you will see an increase to your website and will not mind me using them.

Gary Boudier and the Enfield Local Studies Archive have generously granted me permission to use their images and Craig Ward of the St Andrews Society of Change Ringers has kindly allowed me to use a short recording I made of the St Andrews church bells practice.

If I’ve used any of your material, let me know and I’ll credit you here. Thank you very much.

Just a word. The video is not historically accurate. It jumps from time zone to time zone and I may have got some things wrong but it’s only some entertaining historical fun which I hope people will enjoy and find interesting.

This is hopefully the first of several.  Other areas that John has in mind include Edmonton, Bush Hill Park, Winchmore Hill and Palmers Green.

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Posted: 10 Feb 2015 11:32 by David March #900
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John, what an amazingly interesting film. Congratulations.
I can't wait for 'Enfield Time Machine 2'.
Posted: 21 Feb 2015 22:16 by PGC Webmaster #978
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Fox Lane as it once was. But who's that looking out of the window, wearing a curiously modern looking pair of glasses?

John has now posted TIme Machine No 2 - Around Enfield. It includes photos of deep countryside in places such as Powys Lane.

Survey about possible installation of CCTV in police vans

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Residents in Grange Ward are being sent a questionnaire by the Enfield & North Policing Team which is designed to measure public support for a proposal to install closed circuit TV cameras in police vans.  As the subject of this questionnaire is clearly relevant throughout the Metropolitan Police area, we are reproducing it here and suggest that responses should be sent to the Safer Neighbourhoods Team for whichever ward you live in (see the list of teams on this page).

Dear all,

The Metropolitan Police Service are considering placing CCTV cameras inside police vans that transport arrested persons. A short explanation of the proposal is outlined below along with 4 questions. We would very grateful if you would take the time to answer the questions as your views will be very important when consideration is given as to whether this should be implemented throughout London.

Prisoner transport vehicles are an extension of the custody environment. It is therefore proportionate to monitor the condition and welfare of persons held during transportation.

A basic outline of where the cameras will be fitted as follows -

5 Cameras recording the following areas:

  • Prisoner seating area (video and audio)
  • Escort seating area (video and audio)
  • Rear of van
  • Front of van

Recording starts on engine ignition and continues for 30 minutes after the ignition is switched off


  1. Are you supportive or opposed to the use of CCTV in police vans by police?
  2. Do you have any concerns in respect of the use of Vans with CCTV by police?
  3. Do you have any views in respect of when CCTV in Vans should or should not be used by police?
  4. Do you think that there could be any impacts on community tensions or otherwise that could be linked to the police use of the CCTV in Vans on this Borough?

Thank you and kind regards

PC Nick Harrison 226YE
Enfield & North Policing Team

Email - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Tel - 020 8721 2686

Although not stated explicitly, the purpose of the cameras is to monitor the behaviour of both arrestees and police officers while in the van.  Their installation was the subject of a campaign by the Newham Monitoring Project and an online petition, particularly in relation to the death of Sean Rigg in 2008.  The cameras could both help prevent police wrongdoing and help identify false claims against officers.  (See this newspaper report.)

Thanks to Garry Humphreys for forwarding this information.

Forthcoming WEA courses in Enfield and Southgate

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Brief details of two upcoming WEA courses to be held at Enfield Baptist Church..

Film Studies: James Bond and the Spy Thriller Genre.

James Bond is one of the biggest and best loved “film franchises”. It has turned the spy thriller into glamorous, blockbuster entertainment. This course looks at its 50-year history and introduces key works in the spy thriller genre.

  • Course Dates: 23/02/2015 - 30/03/2015
  • 6 sessions for 2.25 hrs per session
  • Mon 19:00
  • Standard Fee £53.35
  • Any prior knowledge or entry requirements?: None
  • Click here for details

Social History: Building a New Jerusalem

The years of Queen Victoria’s reign saw unprecedented social change in British society. We will explore the continuities and discontinuities in radical and reformist movements from the early years of Chartism to the 20th century formation of the Labour Party.

  • Course Dates: 14/04/2015 - 19/05/2015
  • 6 sessions for 2.25 hrs per session
  • Tue 0945
  • Standard Fee £53.35
  • Any prior knowledge or entry requirements?: None
  • Click here for details

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